45-70 vs 454 Casull: Which is Better for Big Game?

Hunting with Firearms
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When it comes to hunting larger game, the choice of cartridge can make a significant difference. In this discussion, I want to dive into the comparison between the .45-70 Government and the .454 Casull. Both cartridges have their loyal followers, but they also come with unique characteristics that may suit different hunting situations.

Overview of the Cartridges

.45-70 Government: This classic round has been around since the late 19th century and is well-known for its stopping power and effectiveness against large animals. It typically fires a heavy projectile (300-500 grains) at moderate velocities (around 1,300-1,900 feet per second, depending on the load). With a low to moderate pressure (around 28,000 psi), it’s easy to shoot accurately but still packs a punch.

.454 Casull: This is a more modern cartridge designed initially for revolvers, offering a flatter trajectory and higher velocity (up to 1,800 feet per second). It typically uses lighter projectiles (up to 360 grains) and operates at much higher pressures (around 60,000 psi) compared to the .45-70. This makes it a powerful option for hunting as well, albeit with a different shooting platform in mind.

Performance Comparison

Velocity and Energy

  • .45-70: Known for its heavy bullets that deliver plenty of energy on impact. Useful for close-range hunting where knockdown power is critical. Bullet choices include soft points and ballistic tips.
  • .454 Casull: Offers higher velocities which can translate into better trajectory over longer distances, making it suitable for shooting at varying ranges. Also effective with both solid and expanding bullets.

Versatility

  • .45-70: Works exceptionally well in lever-action rifles and single-shot rifles. It’s versatile in that you can load it to varying levels of power, making it suitable for everything from deer to bison.
  • .454 Casull: Mainly used in revolvers, but some lever-action and single-shot rifles are chambered for it as well. The ability to shoot .45 Colt from the same gun adds versatility, especially for practice or smaller game.

Suitability for Hunting

  • .45-70: Its efficacy for larger game like elk, moose, and even dangerous game is well documented. The bullets can be loaded to heavy weights, providing excellent terminal performance.
  • .454 Casull: Ideal for those looking to hunt in areas where bears are a concern. It can deliver quick, powerful shots that are effective in self-defense scenarios as well.

Pros and Cons

  • .45-70:

    • Pros: Excellent stopping power, rich history, and availability of bullets and rifles.
    • Cons: Heavier recoil, slower velocities hence limited to shorter ranges.

  • .454 Casull:

    • Pros: Higher velocity, flatter trajectory, and can be used for self-defense.
    • Cons: Generally requires a heavier revolver, potentially excessive recoil depending on the load.

Conclusion

Ultimately, the choice between .45-70 and .454 Casull comes down to the type of hunting and personal preference. If you prefer traditional hunting methods and engage in game where you want maximum stopping power, the .45-70 may be your best bet. On the other hand, if you’re more inclined towards handgun hunting or need versatility in your shooting platform, the .454 Casull could serve you better.

What are other hunters’ experiences? Any preferences or recommendations based on your own hunting adventures? Let’s discuss!

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I’ve always found .45-70 to have a significant edge in energy transfer, especially with heavy bullets. Its traditional heavy-hitting design excels at close range for big game.

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That’s true, but .454 Casull has impressive velocity and can deliver a flatter trajectory at varying distances. It really depends on the hunting scenario!

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Besides velocity, you also have to consider bullet drop. .45-70 tends to drop more over longer distances, making it less effective beyond 200 yards, unlike the .454.

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That’s a valid point! However, for bush hunting, the .45-70’s knockdown power is often unmatched. It’s about the conditions you’re hunting in.

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Exactly! For open fields, you might prefer the .454, but in heavy cover, I’d go with the .45-70 any day. Plus, it handles larger game better with those heavier bullets.

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Totally agree! The .45-70’s historical reputation for big game speaks volumes. There’s something about that round that inspires confidence.

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What about the recoil differences? I’ve heard .454 can be quite punishing, especially for extended shooting. Can it affect accuracy on follow-up shots?

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Great question! The .45-70 can have significant recoil too, but many find it more manageable compared to the .454. It’s definitely a matter of personal preference!

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I’ve seen hunters using the .454 Casull for bear and doing well, but I wonder if they ever worry about over-penetration. It can go through an animal pretty easily!

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That’s a real concern! Choosing the right bullet type is key for .454 to control that, while .45-70 typically offers a variety of options to prevent over-penetration.

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You know, I just love both calibers for their unique characteristics. Whatever you choose, it’s about finding what fits your hunting style the best!

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The .45-70 has significant recoil, especially in heavier loads, but many find its impulse manageable due to its weight in rifles. The .454 Casull, on the other hand, can be more of a handful, especially in lighter revolvers.

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That’s true! I’ve used the .454 Casull, and while it packs a punch, I find I need more practice to keep my shots consistent. It’s a great challenge though!

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I’ve experienced both, and recoil management is crucial for accuracy. The .45-70 can be tamed with proper technique, while the .454 can frustrate beginners without experience.

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Exactly! I think shooters should be aware of the risks of flinching with both calibers. It can really mess with their accuracy.

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I also find it interesting how much personal preference comes into play. Some people thrive under the recoil of the .454 Casull, while others prefer the .45-70’s steadiness.

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So true! That said, new shooters might want to start with .45-70 to build confidence before tackling the .454.

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What about the weight of the firearms themselves? Lighter guns can amplify recoil. This might influence a beginner’s choice depending on their strength and experience.

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That’s an important point! Weight distribution plays a huge role in how manageable recoil feels during a shoot.